detfan sent me a message, but apparently only buddies can post on his whiteboard. I just want y'all to know that although I think the Volt is a cool car and my cousin loved his when it ran, what ended-up happening is that they gave him a new Volt that was a model year newer and the newest model at the time because it had so many problems. After that, the new one also had problems, so they did refund his money. I will give them that. JD Power can give every GM an award, I am not a fan. My cousin is a car broker who REALLY knows his stuff. Ford's have had their problems in the past, but many of them are great cars right now. If my cousin wanted to put me in a GM, I would trust him. No hard feelings, it looks like we are all sports fans and it's ok to have a difference of opinion. I love my Cardinals, but the Tigers are a great team too. I wish you, detfan, and your friends all the best. We have a town called Payson here too!