GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 1:19:11 PM
Range is the only thing keeping me from a 100% elec. car. The 2013 Ford Fusion Plug-In Hybrid will be my choice.
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GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 6:28:21 PM
Ford and Toyota have basically the same Hybrid systems, I believe they shared research when in dev. GM's is only an e-assist setup, lacking the high city MPG's Not much of a hybrid.
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GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 5:06:14 AM
Detroit's Big Three automakers surge on U.S. sales to beat estimates Tampa Bay Times -- SOUTHFIELD, Mich.— Just three years ago, two Detroit automakers headed for bankruptcy and a third suffered record losses. Now North America has become a money machine for the Detroit Three, which earned $4.5 billion there in the first quarter on surging U.S. sales.
General Motors, Ford and Chrysler Group exceeded estimates with first quarter net income that totaled $3.2 billion. The most pleasant surprise was healthy North American operating margins of 11.5 percent at Ford, 7 percent at GM and 4.5 percent at Chrysler. Even combined losses of $405 million in Europe for GM and Ford were better than analysts anticipated from a region in an intractable financial crisis.
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GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 10:55:57 AM
Ford deal to bring 500 jobs to Detroit
MLIVE -- DEARBORN, MI- Through a three-company deal, Ford Motor Co. and partners will bring about 500 new jobs to Detroit, officials announced today.The deal involves the Dearborn-based automaker and its Automotive Components Holdings subsidiary, which was formed in 2005 to sell the operations or close 23 Visteon plants and other facilities, selling its interior trim components business in Saline to French auto supplier Faurecia, which will lease the physical plant. In turn, Faurecia and Rush Group Ltd., part of the Rush Group of companies that includes one of Ford’s largest minority- and woman-owned suppliers, called Detroit Manufacturing Systems (DMS).
That should brighten somebody's day.
I think I will continue to support FORD!
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GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 10:27:26 AM
I thought the Volt was a plug-in Somis1.
The 2013 Ford Fusion Plug-In Hybrid will be my choice.
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Somis1

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Ventura
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 9:47:47 AM
I thought plug-in hybrids would be great, but their all-electric range is too small to even be meaningful. The Volt looks better, to me.
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RacerGene

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Alabama
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 9:43:59 AM
i want one
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GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 9:43:14 AM
Range is the only thing keeping me from a 100% elec. car. The 2013 Ford Fusion Plug-In Hybrid will be my choice.
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the1roadhog

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 7:46:09 AM
Impressive, no doubt.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 7:41:28 AM
Toyota inflates there mpg's, while Ford's are pretty much right on. My 2005 Ford Escape 2WD Hybrid gets 32.5 combined, and the sticker said 34city/31hwy.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 9:14:13 PM
They said 60/51 for prius and most get mid 40's, so only time will tell.
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14smoke

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Birmingham
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 1:23:13 PM
The EPA sets a number, but, here's the thing, real world is often radically different, sometimes only mildly different, but, I doubt many people will get that number on the dot.
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GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 12:49:03 PM
Geo, do you own a Geo and is it still running? The new Focus offers options to those looking to save gas, which I'm guessing you are one of.
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geobmw

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 12:23:43 PM
so
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GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 11:25:40 AM
I agree Steve, I'd prefer a Hybrid to pure electric.
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STEVE853

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 11:24:04 AM
Thats great but If I travel from the East coast to the West coast of Florida to Tampa approximately 145 miles one way where do I stop and charge the car?You still need charging stations.
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GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 10:58:06 AM
Elec. even cheaper in areas like Iowa, only problem the elec. cars don't have the range they need out there!
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 10:13:55 AM
I've read running elec. costs about 1/2 the cost of running gas.
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bluenvoy

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 9:42:40 AM
And what does the electricity cost to get that fuel economy?
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GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 8:40:43 AM
I think if Ford had made it Hybrid, they would sell more like Prius.
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RacerGene

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Alabama
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 7:48:30 AM
sounds great
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GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 7:35:35 AM
Good luck Ford, hope it does better than Chevy's Volt!
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GBHUGVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 7:34:47 AM
I'd prefer a Hybrid to pure electric.
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